Why is J discussed in comp.lang.apl?


The J language is the latest creation of Ken Iverson, the father of APL. It is discussed in the comp.lang.apl newsgroup and the APL-L mailing list, which mirrors the newsgroup. In spite of the name, the group usually has more postings about J than about APL. Periodically, readers interested in APL suggest that there be a separate group for J. The discussion that ensues has a tendency to get a bit testy and repetitious. In an attempt to avoid rehashing old arguments in the future, I've gathered together selected postings on this subject.

Of particular interest is Kirk Iverson's posting, which describes the actual steps involved in creating a new newsgroup (and the requirements for doing so). Given the current level of readership of comp.lang.apl, it may simply be impossible to create a comp.lang.j group, rendering all the discussion moot.

Note: If you don't want a message you posted to be included in this list, let me know (jimw@chilton.com) and I will delete it.


[1]    2 Apr 93  (17)  Jewell, William S  apl-l UseNet batch for Mon Mar 29 23
[2]    3 Apr 93  (64)  Dickey, L. J.      APL vs J
[3]    5 Apr 93  (12)  Haussmann, H.      apl-l UseNet batch for Sun Mar 21 23
[4]    5 Apr 93  (94)  Brandt, Volker A.  APL vs J
[5]    5 Apr 93  (17)  Sirlin, Sam        apl-l UseNet batch for Sun Mar 21 23
[6]    6 Apr 93  (31)  Bernecky, Robert   apl-l UseNet batch for Sun Mar 21 23
[7]   26 Aug 93  (13)  KNIGHT, BILL       HOW ABOUT A NEWS GROUP FOR *J* ?
[8]   26 Aug 93  (23)  Sirlin, Sam        HOW ABOUT A NEWS GROUP FOR *J* ?
[9]   28 Aug 93  (30)  Waugh, Lloyd M.    HOW ABOUT A NEWS GROUP FOR *J* ?
[10]  28 Aug 93  (62)  Mclean, Emmett     HOW ABOUT A NEWS GROUP FOR *J* ?
[11]  29 Aug 93  (53)  Gaylord, Richard   HOW ABOUT A NEWS GROUP FOR *J* ?
[12]  31 Aug 93  (40)  Dickey, L. J.      HOW ABOUT A NEWS GROUP FOR *J* ?
[13]  31 Aug 93  (18)  Gaylord, Richard   HOW ABOUT A NEWS GROUP FOR *J* ?
[14]   2 Sep 93  (81)  Dennis, Gary S.    HOW ABOUT A NEWS GROUP FOR *J* ?
[15]   3 Sep 93  (14)  Haussmann, H.      no subject given
[16]   3 Sep 93  (25)  Gaylord, Richard   no subject given
[17]   7 Sep 93  (32)  Eisenberg, Murray  J and comp.lang.apl
[18]  10 Jun 94   (9)  Brady, Chris The   Howzabout creating a J conference??
[19]  11 Jun 94  (18)  Pallack, Scott     Howzabout creating a J conference??
[20]  14 Jun 94  (25)  Beattie, John      Howzabout creating a J conference??
[21]  14 Jun 94  (44)  Dennis, Gary S     Howzabout creating a J conference??
[22]  15 Jun 94  (50)  Smith, Bob         Howzabout creating a J conference??
[23]  29 Oct 95  (24)  Wiss, Don          What's All the Fuss About 'J'?
[24]  29 Oct 95  (37)  Weigang, Jim       What's All the Fuss About 'J'?
[25]  30 Oct 95  (21)  Wiss, Don          What's All the Fuss About 'J'?
[26]  31 Oct 95  (28)  Weigang, Jim       What's All the Fuss About 'J'?
[27]   1 Mar 96  (91)  Bj=?iso-8859-1?Q?  Apl and J
[28]   4 Mar 96  (15)  Wings, Soft        Apl and J
[29]   5 Mar 96  (32)  Helgason, Bj?rn    Apl and J
[30]   5 Mar 96  (59)  Iverson, Kirk B.   Apl and J
[31]  29 Feb 96  (56)  Landau, Eric       Why is J discussed in comp.lang.apl
[32]   1 Mar 96  (30)  Howland, John E.   Why is J discussed in comp.lang.apl
[33]   1 Mar 96  (47)  McMullan, Duke     Why is J discussed in comp.lang.apl
[34]   1 Mar 96  (30)  Neitzel, Martin    Why is J discussed in comp.lang.apl
[35]   1 Mar 96  (25)  Wiss, Don          Why is J discussed in comp.lang.apl
[36]   2 Mar 96  (21)  Wiss, Don          Why is J discussed in comp.lang.apl
[37]   3 Mar 96  (17)  Neitzel, Martin    Why is J discussed in comp.lang.apl
[38]   5 Mar 96  (16)  Wiss, Don          Why is J discussed in comp.lang.apl
[39]   7 Mar 96  (20)  Howson, Don        News group.
[40]   7 Mar 96  (17)  Wiss, Don          News group.
[41]  11 Mar 96  (22)  Iverson, Ken       Dialects in comp.lang.apl
[42]  12 Mar 96  (69)  MacDonald, Randy   Dialects in comp.lang.apl
[43]  13 Mar 96  (21)  Kent, Mike         Dialects in comp.lang.apl
[44]  17 Sep 96  (28)  Trubisz, Joe       Why not comp.lang.J? 
[45]  18 Sep 96  (27)  CDBurke            Why not comp.lang.J? 
[46]  26 Sep 96  (20)  Wiss, Don          Why not comp.lang.J? 
[47]  15 Feb 97  (27)  Wiss, Don          apl program for Cubic Eq. 


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